In my view artists should not be compared with each other, in fact they can not be compared, because for comparison we need similar parameters which is not possible in fields like singing, music or art.

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My message in post 13, i hope, is a clear cut answer to your question sir regarding getting of bharat ratna award to rafi sahab and hence i feel that all matters are now competely sorted out. What do you say sir?

For your kind information, you have started comparing Rafi Saab even with Mahatma Gandhiji, Swami Vivekanandji, Saint Tyagarajaji when comparisons with all bollywood and tollywood personalities got exhausted, it seems. This itself is a great achievement for Rafi Saab from a non-Rafi follower. In your opinion, all the Bharat Ratna awardees so far post Mahatma Gandhiji, S.Vivekanandji and St.Tyagarajaji don’t deserve this award at all. Very excellent observation and comments.

Thanks for your comments and observations in the right spirit. Keep it up. HATS OFF TO YOU.

This argument regarding comparison between the stalwarts has undergone many proportions and discussions in different sites of rafi sahab as well as ghantasala garu, and i personally fee that both ghantasala garu and rafi sahab are equally great. So sir’s let us close the issue here and i fully correspond and agree to your views that these singers are indeed gifts of almighty to the earth.

Now, let us share some happy moments. Sri rafi sahab’s name has indeed been recommended for the Bharat ratna award and let us hope and wish that the legend of bollywood gets the award on due and honourable lines without paving way for any political hitches.

Rafi is not donald bradman pl. Because donald bradman was a man of 40’s and sachin tendulkar is a man of 90’s – vast time period difference and environmental and other conditions play major role hence and accordingly no comparison can be made between both.

But rafi, ghantasala and kishore all belonged to the approximaely same period and almost same conditions (though kishore’s period was somewhat more). this point should be noted and cannot be overlooked.

Secondly, do you know that rafi is not in any way nearer or greater than mahatma gandhi, swami vivekananada, saint thyagaraja like personalities and their achievements and who were not bestowed any award and who also rejected award or honours when conferred upon them. That is a true and complete individual and not your favourite pl.

OK. considering that both are unique and equal in all respects, the boiling point is pronunciation of Rafi Saab’s Hindi vs. Ghantasalaji’s Telugu. How come you say Rafi Saab’s pronunciation is not proper? This is a layman’s comment. I think you have overlooked certain facts and figures.

Secondly, when Raj is supporting your comment of Kishoreda overtaking Rafi Saab, I only wish to read my earlier comments thoroughly i.e. Sunil Gavaskar and Sachin Tendulkar overtaking Sir Donald Bradman’s record. See the statistics: Bradman, the greatest of all time played only 52 tests and scored 6992 runs with 29 centuries at an average of 99.94, whereas Sunil & Sachin scored 10000 and 11000 odd runs with 34 centuries and 38 centuries at an average of 50 plus only in 125 tests and 145 tests resp. Now you know the meaning of overtaking. Where was Kishoreda upto 1970s eventhough he started his career as a singer in 1955 itself. It is only due to some politics in the bollywood Rafi Saab got lesser songs compared to sixties and fifties and even then he remained numero uno in the seventies and till his departure. It is also customary in the film industry for a singer to praise other singer and vice versa so as to maintain the relationship. You yourself say Shri Ghantasalaji is only a regional figure. The argument ends there itself. Forget the Bharat Ratna Award, these singers are awards to the country itself given by the almighty. We must see to it that the sheen is not lost by unwanted arguments.

Thanks

i too agree with mr. vitthal ji, I am a maharashtrian and not a telugu man. I have heard few of ghantasala renderings, which have a mellifluous and heart rendering effect. you cannot say that rafi is superior to ghantasala and that is not true. Ghantasala’s voice is also a super divine voice pl.

anyhow, my issue is different. As vittal ji, observed in his earlier messages, kishore kumar has certainly overtaken rafi, and kishore was the most sought after singers in the 70’s despite rafi being available. kishore’s voice had great influence on the people and the then music directors of hindi film music. If you hear duo songs of both viz., bane chahe dushman jamana hamara, yaadon ki barat etc. kishore has a definite edge over rafi. You hence cannot say that rafi is the greatest singer in bollywood.

Even manna dey despite his great regard for rafi, has termed kishore as a irreplaceable singer.

My views are, i too say that it is better to stop this begging business of getting awards for a singer who departed more than 25 years ago, which will not serve any purpose. even if he gets award posthumously, what will happen. Even if he does not get, heavens are not going to fall. If you fans have such determination and resources, i request you to please recommend and advise the government (along with your fans) with some well determined policies which will be beneficial to the people of india and upliftment of country rather than these bharat ratna or anything which will not serve any purpose to you, neither me or any body else.